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== Criticism ==
== Criticism ==
BadEmpanada celebrated the doxxing and subsequent retirement of [[Bay Area415|BayArea415]] from the internet. He questioned whether BayArea415 was "…really at risk." after [[Fascism|fascists]] revealed his identity.<ref name=":0">{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TeV48CdJ0U|channel=BadEmpanada 2|title=BayArea415 Shuts Down EVERYTHING?! Goodbye to the King!|date=2021-08-21}}</ref>


BadEmpanada blindly criticises [[Actually Existing Socialism|AES]] projects such as [[People's Republic of China|China]] calling it "[[Capitalism|capitalist]]", "imperialist" and "communist in name only."<ref name=":1">{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpTL_nz0qsw&t=449s|channel=BadEmpanada 2|title=Let's Read Michael Parenti on Dengist China|date=2021-06-22}}</ref>
===Behaviour ===
On stream he often engages toxic behaviour, including involving himself in petty drama between content creators<ref>{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG-IeglWKgE|channel=Destiny|title=BadEmpanada Debates Destiny For Prof Flowers, Infrared Haz Jumps Into Twitch Chat|date=2022-02-13}}</ref><ref>{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRIL6AFv4wg|channel=LonerBox Live|title=Debating BadEmpanada (White Coloniser)|date=2022-05-25}}</ref> (although he has stated that he would like to avoid unimportant internet drama in the future)<ref>BadEmpanada 2 (2022-07-22).:  [https://youtu.be/8aPx2HcM5-4 "Moving Forward"].  YouTube.  Retrieved 2022-07-22.</ref>, making unsubstantiated claims,<ref>{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ObceIasVHs|channel=BadEmpanada 2|title=I Miss BayArea415, The King of LARP|date=2022-04-16}}</ref> engaging in "debate bro" behaviour such as reductio ad absurdum<ref name=":1" />, and promoting misinformation.<ref name=":0">{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TeV48CdJ0U|channel=BadEmpanada 2|title=BayArea415 Shuts Down EVERYTHING?! Goodbye to the King!|date=2021-08-21}}</ref>


On stream he often engages toxic behaviour, including involving himself in petty drama between content creators,<ref>{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG-IeglWKgE|channel=Destiny|title=BadEmpanada Debates Destiny For Prof Flowers, Infrared Haz Jumps Into Twitch Chat|date=2022-02-13}}</ref><ref>{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRIL6AFv4wg|channel=LonerBox Live|title=Debating BadEmpanada (White Coloniser)|date=2022-05-25}}</ref> making unsubstantiated claims,<ref>{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ObceIasVHs|channel=BadEmpanada 2|title=I Miss BayArea415, The King of LARP|date=2022-04-16}}</ref> engaging in "debate bro" behaviour such as reductio ad absurdum<ref name=":1" /> and the promotion of misinformation.<ref name=":0" />
BadEmpanada has also celebrated the doxxing and subsequent retirement of [[Bay Area415|BayArea415]] from the internet. He questioned whether BayArea415 was "really at risk" after [[Fascism|fascists]] revealed his identity.<ref name=":0" />
 
=== Criticism of AES ===
BadEmpanada blindly criticises [[Actually Existing Socialism|AES]] projects such as [[People's Republic of China|China]] calling it "[[Capitalism|capitalist]]", "[[Imperialism|imperialist]]" and "communist in name only."<ref name=":1">{{YouTube citation|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpTL_nz0qsw&t=449s|channel=BadEmpanada 2|title=Let's Read Michael Parenti on Dengist China|date=2021-06-22}}</ref>
 
=== Misrepresentation ===
Generally, BadEmpanada will accurately represent those he is criticising, although this is not always the case (especially when there is no obvious response to what's being said).  Sometimes, he resorts to strawmanning, intentionally or otherwise.  A chief example of this is his misrepresentation of Bay Area415 in a video discussing Chinese 'imperialism'.
 
In the video, Bay noted that he prefers not to refer to [[Third World]] countries as 'backwards' or 'underdeveloped' and showed a clip from [[Michael Parenti|Michael Parenti's]] [[Library:US Interventionism, the Third World, and the USSR|''"Yellow Speech"'']] explaining why.<ref><blockquote>"By the way, I don't really like the term 'underdeveloped' or 'backwards country' [...].  As this is more of a historical or Marxist terminology of explaining overexploitation from capitalists, I really like how Michael Parenti explains it here."</blockquote>[[Trending Now! Network]] (2021-09-04).:  [https://youtu.be/rcMuA3-JL7E "'Is China Imperialist?'  Comrade Report/Bay Area 415 REACTION & WATCH ALONG"].  YouTube.</ref> BadEmpanada took this as Bay quoting Parenti out of context in order to defend China, when this was not at all the case.  He then proceeded to quote Parenti criticising China's [[Chinese economic reform|market reforms]] and handling of the situation in [[Tibet Autonomous Region|Tibet]],<ref name=":1" /> as though the quotes had any relevance to what was being said or the topic at hand.  


==External links==
==External links==

Revision as of 00:34, 10 March 2023

BadEmpanada
Personal information
BornGeorsh
NationalityAustralian
Argentine
YouTube information
WebsiteBadEmpanada
Years active2019–present
Subscribers78,100 (March 2023)
Total views5,481,932 (March 2023)
Associated actsBadEmpanada 2
Georsh
IdeologyMarxism
Anti-Imperialism
Ultra-leftism

Last updated: 2023-02-14

BadEmpanada is an Australian-Argentine communist YouTuber.[1] He makes long-form video essays about history, settler colonialism, imperialism and Latin American politics. BadEmpanada also has a stream clips channel and a Spanish language channel.

Criticism

Behaviour

On stream he often engages toxic behaviour, including involving himself in petty drama between content creators[2][3] (although he has stated that he would like to avoid unimportant internet drama in the future)[4], making unsubstantiated claims,[5] engaging in "debate bro" behaviour such as reductio ad absurdum[6], and promoting misinformation.[7]

BadEmpanada has also celebrated the doxxing and subsequent retirement of BayArea415 from the internet. He questioned whether BayArea415 was "really at risk" after fascists revealed his identity.[7]

Criticism of AES

BadEmpanada blindly criticises AES projects such as China calling it "capitalist", "imperialist" and "communist in name only."[6]

Misrepresentation

Generally, BadEmpanada will accurately represent those he is criticising, although this is not always the case (especially when there is no obvious response to what's being said). Sometimes, he resorts to strawmanning, intentionally or otherwise. A chief example of this is his misrepresentation of Bay Area415 in a video discussing Chinese 'imperialism'.

In the video, Bay noted that he prefers not to refer to Third World countries as 'backwards' or 'underdeveloped' and showed a clip from Michael Parenti's "Yellow Speech" explaining why.[8] BadEmpanada took this as Bay quoting Parenti out of context in order to defend China, when this was not at all the case. He then proceeded to quote Parenti criticising China's market reforms and handling of the situation in Tibet,[6] as though the quotes had any relevance to what was being said or the topic at hand.

External links

References

  1. BadEmpanada (2019-01-17). "About" YouTube. Retrieved 2023-01-01.
  2. Destiny (2022-02-13). "BadEmpanada Debates Destiny For Prof Flowers, Infrared Haz Jumps Into Twitch Chat". YouTube.
  3. LonerBox Live (2022-05-25). "Debating BadEmpanada (White Coloniser)". YouTube.
  4. BadEmpanada 2 (2022-07-22).: "Moving Forward". YouTube. Retrieved 2022-07-22.
  5. BadEmpanada 2 (2022-04-16). "I Miss BayArea415, The King of LARP". YouTube.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 BadEmpanada 2 (2021-06-22). "Let's Read Michael Parenti on Dengist China". YouTube.
  7. 7.0 7.1 BadEmpanada 2 (2021-08-21). "BayArea415 Shuts Down EVERYTHING?! Goodbye to the King!". YouTube.
  8. "By the way, I don't really like the term 'underdeveloped' or 'backwards country' [...]. As this is more of a historical or Marxist terminology of explaining overexploitation from capitalists, I really like how Michael Parenti explains it here."

    Trending Now! Network (2021-09-04).: "'Is China Imperialist?' Comrade Report/Bay Area 415 REACTION & WATCH ALONG". YouTube.