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:::*https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html
:::*https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html
:::*https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/01/29/discord-the-2-billion-gamers-paradise-coming-to-terms-with-data-thieves-child-groomers-and-fbi-investigators/?sh=3a8e49943741
:::*https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/01/29/discord-the-2-billion-gamers-paradise-coming-to-terms-with-data-thieves-child-groomers-and-fbi-investigators/?sh=3a8e49943741
:::Although Telegram is surely not 100% safe, it's a way better option than Discord. Besides, the app we use is not based on security or safety, since it's unlikely we are ever safe in a capitalist-controlled service, we use Telegram because its clientside source-code is open, and therefore can be used in more devices. You can download Telegram through F-Droid for your smartphone, or through your Linux distro's repository, and even Windows (which you shouldn't use if you care about losing your documents and files). Telegram also is better in terms of number of users and usability, having more users outside the US than Discord (400 million users in Telegram vs. 250 million users in Discord). — '' Comrade [[User:FelipeForte|Felipe Forte]]'' <sup>([[User talk:FelipeForte|talk]])</sup> 12:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
:::Although Telegram is surely not 100% safe, it's a way better option than Discord. Besides, the app we use is not based on security or safety, since it's unlikely we are ever safe in a capitalist-controlled service, we use Telegram because its clientside source-code is open, and therefore can be used in more devices. You can download Telegram through F-Droid for your smartphone, or through your Linux distro's repository, and even Windows (which you shouldn't use if you care about losing your documents and files). Telegram also is better in terms of number of users and usability, having more users outside the US than Discord (400 million users in Telegram vs. 250 million users in Discord). — ''Supreme Comrade [[User:FelipeForte|Felipe Forte]]'' <sup>([[User talk:FelipeForte|talk]])</sup> 12:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
::::Any time you get on the internet you can be spied upon but some sites are worse than others. Also some sites have at least a notional commitment to internet freedom and some don't. I put Discord in the spy-unfree category. For one thing, it asks for dual factor authentication when you make an account; at least it did for me. This means it demands your cellphone number, thus linking your internet activity to a phone account which is likely to lead in turn to your real identity; so it's a threat to anonymity, which is an important part of internet freedom. Also, some people don't have cellphones, they just still use a land line, or maybe don't have a phone at all. Some less-wealthy people have no phone but can still use internet at a public library. So there's economic discrimination involved as well. I prefer to stick to free, open-source software as much as possible. -- ''Comrade [[Comrade:Comwik|Comwik]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:Comwik|talk]])</sup> 02:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:::Any time you get on the internet you can be spied upon but some sites are worse than others. Also some sites have at least a notional commitment to internet freedom and some don't. I put Discord in the spy-unfree category. For one thing, it asks for dual factor authentication when you make an account; at least it did for me. This means it demands your cellphone number, thus linking your internet activity to a phone account which is likely to lead in turn to your real identity; so it's a threat to anonymity, which is an important part of internet freedom. Also, some people don't have cellphones, they just still use a land line, or maybe don't have a phone at all. Some less-wealthy people have no phone but can still use internet at a public library. So there's economic discrimination involved as well. I prefer to stick to free, open-source software as much as possible. -- ''Comrade [[Comrade:Comwik|Comwik]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:Comwik|talk]])</sup> 02:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:::::We currently stick to Discord nowadays, but we certainly are open to alternatives and to expand our means of communication. The main reason Discord is used is because it's unfortunately the best service we know to organize a discussion center organized with different channels, which helps a lot in our discussions. If you know of a FOSS service, or a less invasive service that has these features, feel free to share with us. Also, I'm not sure why Discord obliges you to give your phone number, I have never been asked this, and I never had to present them this information. — ''Comrade [[Comrade:Camarada.Forte|Forte]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:Camarada.Forte|talk]])</sup> 03:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


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