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Map Policy

I would like for this wiki to have a standard policy for maps.

Many maps on Wikipedia use Green/Red for Good/Bad. They also have a problem of using seemingly arbitrary colours in some cases. The main problem with green/red maps is that they are not good for colour-blind people. Another issue is that it is eurocentric. East Asians consider the colour red to be good and have had this association for hundreds if not thousands of years. Another (perhaps too obvious) problem is that we are communists - and we shouldn't be using red as a symbol of inferiority.

My suggestion is this: Red/Blue maps.

Red should represent communism, or countries who align with it. For example in a map about the Belt and Road Initiative, the countries in it should be coloured red since China is one of the 5 countries we recognize as socialist.

Blue should represent capitalism, imperialism, or countries who align with it. A map showing NATO, or OECD, should use blue because they are built around the imperialist nations.

What about the results of a vote (at the UN for example??)? My personal preference would be Red=Yes, Black=No. I understand that this would be too counter-intuitive for most people so I suggest Green=Yes, Black=No.

-Comrade Spookfessor ^(talk) 08:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

How would you color Russia? — Comrade FelipeForte ^(talk) 21:31, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

It depends on the map. If there was a map about Islam, for example, I would colour it green. If it was Russia (maybe a map about CIS, or a map of countries that have Russian embassies) then my instinct would be to colour it red.

I guess the policy I am thinking of would say something like "In maps about things related to communism, or states which we critically or uncritically support, they should be coloured red. In maps about things related to capitalism, imperialism, or states which we reject, they should be coloured blue. In all other cases (which relate neither to communism nor to imperialism), the map can be coloured according to common sense."

And then maybe something about Yes/No maps.

This is only my personal suggestion for a policy. What I am really asking for is for there to be a policy at all.

-Comrade Spookfessor ^(talk) 05:54, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Well, we are currently using green for every country at the moment, irrespective of our stance on the country. I don't think we really need to put different colors for countries we're fond of, because in the article body we stand pretty clear on our stance. If however, for instance, the subject is a war the capitalists wage against communism, such as the Cold War, then I think it's a appropriate a blue coloring for imperialists and the capitalists and red for the communists in a map representing the different forces. Or the subject is about socialism and we mention AES or previous existing socialism, we can paint them red as well. But having different colors for our stance on every country can be confusing for outsiders. — Comrade FelipeForte ^(talk) 04:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

As for colorblind colors, that's a good idea, in my opinion. What colors do you suggest (for every country's article, independent of our support for them)? — Comrade FelipeForte ^(talk) 04:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

OK, I'll be honest. I didn't even consider the one-country maps. Those being green is totally fine. I was thinking of multi-country maps. -Comrade Spookfessor ^(talk) 07:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC)