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CriticalResist (talkcontribs)

Hi comrade,

Thank you for your exhaustive additions to the Sun Yat-Sen page.

I went through it to correct some of the formatting and would like to share some tips with you regarding formatting when editing as I noticed some mistakes in the formatting. I already went and formatted the page, so you can look at the two revision differences if you prefer.

If you didn't know, we have a User Guide now that can be used as a reference guide to using the visual editor.

When first introducing an acronym (ROC in this page), it's good practice to type it out in parentheses next to it. In this case, since the Republic of China appeared before ROC, I put in the acronym in parentheses next to the full name instead, in the first instance it appears.

For headings (such as Early Life and Education), you can press Ctrl+2 on your keyboard to style a paragraph with it. I figure you're not super familiar with the visual editor (unless you're on the source editor šŸ« ) as we noticed you didn't use headings in a previous edit as well.

For dates (such as 11/12/1886), we prefer to type them out completely in the text body. There's no agreed upon formatting for dates yet, so you can say November 12 1886, or1886 12 November or etc, but it helps avoid confusion around US date formats of Month-Day-Year and the rest of the world that uses Day-Month-Year. For example I wasn't sure whether 1/11/1912 referred to January 11 or November 1st as I was unable to find an exact date online.

Finally, please add as many sources as you can! This can also be done a day or two after a large edit as we understand most people (me included) don't like to interrupt their flow of writing to hunt down sources, but they are important for readers to fact-check and trust the information we give them.

Otherwise it's a good-quality and lengthy edit in terms of content!

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CriticalResist (talkcontribs)

Hi comrade,

First of all, thank you for your many edits on ProleWiki so far.

I noticed that you replaced red links with external links, many of which pointing to Wikipedia, on various articles.

I wanted to bring this up to you to explain our usual process as well as why we don't like to link to Wikipedia. For transparency reasons, please be aware I've rolled back your edits that added external links (as you will probably see in the recent changes page).

The first problem is with Wikipedia itself. It's an anti-communist encyclopedia that we don't hold in high regard on prolewiki; i.e. our Wikipedia page which is not very kind to them (and for good reason). If we start linking our readers to wikipedia on the one hand, while criticizing them on the other, we send out mixed messages about our stance and principles.

External links should more readily be included as sources if necessary. To add a source on the visual editor, you can click on the Cite button at the top of the page and choose the template -- we have three so far (book, website, youtube video). It's also possible to use notes to define terms, although they're a bit unwieldy to use (you would write your note between a [note 1] tag, then add a References list at the end of the page, click on it, click edit, then type "note" as the group if that makes sense).

While red links are a bit of a problem as they link to a page that does not exist, they also serve a purpose as they indicate which pages are wanted. You can see wanted pages hereSpecial:WantedPages, essentially the more a non-existent page is linked on the wiki, the higher it shows up there.

The best practice therefore would be to create a page to fill a red link if it doesn't exist. Until you get the Trusted role to create pages of your own, you can ask any trusted editor to create a page for you if you'd like to write it.

We remain available if you have any questions or need any help to use MediaWiki, it's a difficult tool to get started with!

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NykonaSharrowkyn1918 (talkcontribs)

Thx for letting me know

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