More languages
More actions
(→Establishing the date of the massacre: new section) |
No edit summary |
||
| (One intermediate revision by one other user not shown) | |||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
== Incorrect Sourcing == | |||
The first citation in the article refers to a massacre which is called a "reverse Katyn." Furr points out connection with police badges, but the source should not be used on its own considering that on the surface it is being abused. | |||
== Establishing the date of the massacre == | == Establishing the date of the massacre == | ||
| Line 5: | Line 9: | ||
What we can say in the meantime is that the massacre took place between 1941 and 1943. | What we can say in the meantime is that the massacre took place between 1941 and 1943. | ||
— ''Comrade [[Comrade:CriticalResist|CriticalResist]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:CriticalResist|talk]])</sup> 18:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC) | — ''Comrade [[Comrade:CriticalResist|CriticalResist]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:CriticalResist|talk]])</sup> 18:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
:The Katyn forest is close to the border of the old USSR and Poland, next to the city of Smolensk. After the beginning of Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, the Nazis began their war campaign against the Soviet Union. By the end of 1941, the Nazis had already captured territories ahead of Smolensk and in later years, they pushed even further. | |||
:The soldiers who found the bodies in 1943 were probably another batch of soldiers who were on their way to the battlefronts, but it doesn't mean they only reached the forest in 1943. The shell casings of the bullets and some documents found with the bodies point that the massacre happened no earlier than 1941. The map annexed in the article illustrates this as well. | |||
:The sources we use also point out that the Nazis promoted similar massacres between July and and December 1941, and that they were done in a pattern similar to other massacres committed by the Nazis against the Polish. — ''Comrade [[Comrade:Camarada.Forte|Forte]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:Camarada.Forte|talk]])</sup> 20:25, 1 February 2022 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 18:54, 24 January 2024
Incorrect Sourcing[edit source]
The first citation in the article refers to a massacre which is called a "reverse Katyn." Furr points out connection with police badges, but the source should not be used on its own considering that on the surface it is being abused.
Establishing the date of the massacre[edit source]
We have to look further into the date (at the very least figuring out the exact year) of the massacre, knowing that we likely won't have fullproof evidence. The page states that the massacre happened in 1941, but logically it couldn't have happened before the Nazis moved into the forest, in 1943. However they may have killed the officers earlier and moved them to this spot to pin it on the Soviets. What Furr said in his article is that the badge at another site, dated 1941, contradicts that Katyn took place in 1940 like the Nazis claimed. What we can say in the meantime is that the massacre took place between 1941 and 1943. — Comrade CriticalResist (talk) 18:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- The Katyn forest is close to the border of the old USSR and Poland, next to the city of Smolensk. After the beginning of Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, the Nazis began their war campaign against the Soviet Union. By the end of 1941, the Nazis had already captured territories ahead of Smolensk and in later years, they pushed even further.
- The soldiers who found the bodies in 1943 were probably another batch of soldiers who were on their way to the battlefronts, but it doesn't mean they only reached the forest in 1943. The shell casings of the bullets and some documents found with the bodies point that the massacre happened no earlier than 1941. The map annexed in the article illustrates this as well.