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''Marxist theories of LGBT oppression drew on the central socialist feminist argument that both working-class women’s lower wages, and their burden of unwaged reproductive (domestic) labour, are not mere pre-capitalist vestiges but are internal and necessary to the modern capitalist system of exploitation. Heterosexism is rooted in this gender oppression. As the British Gay Left Collective argued in 1975, because '''capitalism needs the model heterosexual household to make reproductive labour “natural”, invisible and unworthy of compensation,'''''
''“Marxist theories of LGBT oppression drew on the central socialist feminist argument that both working-class women’s lower wages, and their burden of unwaged reproductive (domestic) labour, are not mere pre-capitalist vestiges but are internal and necessary to the modern capitalist system of exploitation. Heterosexism is rooted in this gender oppression. As the British Gay Left Collective argued in 1975, because '''capitalism needs the model heterosexual household to make reproductive labour “natural”, invisible and unworthy of compensation,'''''


:''‘…gay oppression is a result of the demands made on the family by a capitalist society…It is essential, therefore, for us as gay people, to begin to link our oppression to the wider system of exploitation and oppression that capitalism operates. But at the same time, the question of sexuality must be confronted by the self-defined revolutionary left and by the labour movement generally.''
:''‘…gay oppression is a result of the demands made on the family by a capitalist society…It is essential, therefore, for us as gay people, to begin to link our oppression to the wider system of exploitation and oppression that capitalism operates. But at the same time, the question of sexuality must be confronted by the self-defined revolutionary left and by the labour movement generally.’”''
 
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''“'''Accusations of “postmodernism” or “identity politics”''' are often used by left-wing chauvinists in the same way that disingenuous charges of “bourgeois feminism” or “bourgeois decadence” were in the ‘60s-80s: to silence socialist women and LGBT liberationists who refuse to get in line and just “wait for the revolution”.”''
''“'''Accusations of “postmodernism” or “identity politics”''' are often used by left-wing chauvinists in the same way that disingenuous charges of “bourgeois feminism” or “bourgeois decadence” were in the ‘60s-80s: to silence socialist women and LGBT liberationists who refuse to get in line and just “wait for the revolution”.”''

Latest revision as of 15:57, 8 November 2021

Communists should stand against all forms of oppression[edit source]

A recent edit from user @Brit commie stated some incorrect, unscientific and extremely problematic views on the matter of oppression against LGBT+, and the position communists should adopt in relation to it. It's known that communists have historically adopted uncritical views of the question, echoing the lack of knowledge on the subject of the past. Today, it is no longer the case, now that we have proper knowledge on this subject.

While the edit summary claims it has "removed bias from criticisms", it has in fact added a bias towards the standing oppressive structure of gender, and promoted unscientific views on the matter. The edit claims that the view that the so-called "identity politics" is opposed to class struggle is justified because "the number of transgender people is statistically small". While communists strive for the rule of the majority, we also struggle against all forms of oppression, including, but not limited to, the oppression against the LGBT+ community. By the same argument, Asian people are a select minority in the US, but does it mean we shouldn't fight against racism towards this community?

Citing Michael Parenti's critique of the liberal deviations of the struggle against oppressions is not at all related to CPGB-ML's stance on the subject of oppression against LGBT+, which is outright reactionary. I suggest that anyone who still upholds these views read Red Fightback's article on the historical-materialist theory of gender, from which I quote:

“The problems with arguments reducing sexism to biological causes become especially pronounced when we examine how, on a global scale, capitalist imperialism has also violently suppressed forms of gender and sexuality expression at odds with the requirements of capital accumulation.”

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“Marxist theories of LGBT oppression drew on the central socialist feminist argument that both working-class women’s lower wages, and their burden of unwaged reproductive (domestic) labour, are not mere pre-capitalist vestiges but are internal and necessary to the modern capitalist system of exploitation. Heterosexism is rooted in this gender oppression. As the British Gay Left Collective argued in 1975, because capitalism needs the model heterosexual household to make reproductive labour “natural”, invisible and unworthy of compensation,

‘…gay oppression is a result of the demands made on the family by a capitalist society…It is essential, therefore, for us as gay people, to begin to link our oppression to the wider system of exploitation and oppression that capitalism operates. But at the same time, the question of sexuality must be confronted by the self-defined revolutionary left and by the labour movement generally.’”

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Accusations of “postmodernism” or “identity politics” are often used by left-wing chauvinists in the same way that disingenuous charges of “bourgeois feminism” or “bourgeois decadence” were in the ‘60s-80s: to silence socialist women and LGBT liberationists who refuse to get in line and just “wait for the revolution”.”

Considering that, ProleWiki has a firm stance against all forms of oppression, including reactionary tendencies inside the communist movement, a stance which will be reflected on our principles on the near future. Repeated offenses against these principles will result in termination of the offender's account. @Brit commie: take this as lightly as you can, this will not result in your ban, but be aware of your own reactionary and unscientific deviations to avoid your exclusion from the project. — Comrade FelipeForte (talk) 04:14, 8 November 2021 (UTC)