Talk:Katyn massacre: Difference between revisions

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Establishing the date of the massacre

We have to look further into the date (at the very least figuring out the exact year) of the massacre, knowing that we likely won't have fullproof evidence. The page states that the massacre happened in 1941, but logically it couldn't have happened before the Nazis moved into the forest, in 1943. However they may have killed the officers earlier and moved them to this spot to pin it on the Soviets. What Furr said in his article is that the badge at another site, dated 1941, contradicts that Katyn took place in 1940 like the Nazis claimed. What we can say in the meantime is that the massacre took place between 1941 and 1943. — Comrade CriticalResist ^(talk) 18:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

The Katyn forest is close to the border of the old USSR and Poland, next to the city of Smolensk. After the beginning of Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, the Nazis began their war campaign against the Soviet Union. By the end of 1941, the Nazis had already captured territories ahead of Smolensk and in later years, they pushed even further.

The soldiers who found the bodies in 1943 were probably another batch of soldiers who were on their way to the battlefronts, but it doesn't mean they only reached the forest in 1943. The shell casings of the bullets and some documents found with the bodies point that the massacre happened no earlier than 1941. The map annexed in the article illustrates this as well.

The sources we use also point out that the Nazis promoted similar massacres between July and and December 1941, and that they were done in a pattern similar to other massacres committed by the Nazis against the Polish. — Comrade Forte ^(talk) 20:25, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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 What we can say  in the meantime is that the massacre took place between 1941 and 1943.
 — ''Comrade [[Comrade:CriticalResist|CriticalResist]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:CriticalResist|talk]])</sup> 18:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
+:The Katyn forest is close to the border of the old USSR and Poland, next to the city of Smolensk. After the beginning of Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, the Nazis began their war campaign against the Soviet Union. By the end of 1941, the Nazis had already captured territories ahead of Smolensk and in later years, they pushed even further.
+:The soldiers who found the bodies in 1943 were probably another batch of soldiers who were on their way to the battlefronts, but it doesn't mean they only reached the forest in 1943. The shell casings of the bullets and some documents found with the bodies point that the massacre happened no earlier than 1941. The map annexed in the article illustrates this as well.
+:The sources we use also point out that the Nazis promoted similar massacres between July and and December 1941, and that they were done in a pattern similar to other massacres committed by the Nazis against the Polish. — ''Comrade [[Comrade:Camarada.Forte|Forte]]'' <sup>([[Comradeship:Camarada.Forte|talk]])</sup> 20:25, 1 February 2022 (UTC)