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Wisconcom (talkcontribs)

They are largely irrelevant. As far as I could tell, this organization is made up of a few people or groups of people from a few different countries.

They might exist outside of the internet, maybe, but it is very hard to ascertain that, given how practically nobody outside the Comintern (S-H) reports on this group.

However, on the Wikipedia article for Anti-revisionist groups, it does list "The German section of the Comintern(SH)" and "The American section of the Comintern(SH)", which implies some sort of organization, or this one facebook post, which talks about the "Russian Section of the Comintern (SH)", but beyond that, there is little proof to suggest the Comintern(SH) exists outside their website.

Wisconcom (talkcontribs)

I think that they should be atleast metioned for the sole reason that they have created a new form of Marxism called "Stalinism-Hoxhaism", which they have created entire books talking about, even if it is still rather unheard of.

Forte (talkcontribs)

Their book starts promising 😂️

Why is Stalinism-Hoxhaism irrefutable? Because it derives from Stalinism and Hoxhaism.

A great deal of the first part of the book is just saying "Stalinism-Hoxhaism is this", "Stalinism-Hoxhaism is that".

Stalinism-Hoxhaism is the ideology of the revolutionary fighters for world communism of the present, characterized by the revolutionary militant spirit of the heroic times of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and the Comintern.

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Stalinism-Hoxhaism is the strongest ideological weapon of the world proletariat for its liberation from world capitalism, for the construction of world socialism and its transition to world communism.

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Stalinism-Hoxhaism is based on the 5 Classics, but not limited to their lessons. Marxism-Leninism was further developed even after the death of Marx, Engels and Lenin.

It reminds me of the Marxists-Leninists-Maoists, who usually have very pompous words for their ideology (they praise their theory because they cannot set an example through practice). It just seems like watering down of Marxist theory, because the more away you are from the fundamentals (Marx and Engels), the less coherent any Marxist theory becomes.

Marx/Engels and Lenin are not only complementary but a coherent whole because it was in Lenin than the theoretical and political basis of Marx and Engels became concrete. Marx and Engels were the theory which Lenin gave a practice to (or, rather, praxis). There's no need to reinvent the wheel. Stalin, Mao Zedong, Hoxha, all were Marxists-Leninists, and their theory/practice only serves to make Marxism-Leninism flourish further.

Though we would write about Marxism-Leninism-Maoism because there are several organizations which take that ideology as their guiding theory, there's no need to write about Stalinism-Hoxhaism, nor this on-line "Communist International" because it is extremely irrelevant. So my advice is to not bother. If you happen to find anything about this further, feel free to add it up, though.

Wisconcom (talkcontribs)

Hello comrade. I have discovered some proof for the existance of offline action on the part of the Comintern (S-H), my apologies for my indolence in founding these.

All these pictures were from members of the Comintern (SH) in Wisconsin, and taken in May 2022.

My stance of this topic does not change, as there still exists inadequate offline action done by this organization to justify fully documenting their ideology, however, I merely thought this would be an interesting consideration.

Forte (talkcontribs)

We can leave the article as it is, until further development or context behind these pictures and future information

Wisconcom (talkcontribs)

I would not say that this "Stalinism-Hoxhaism" is simply reinventing the wheel, for these "Stalinists-Hoxhaists" claim to, and atleast in their books, provide new theory, which they claim is better suited to the modern world, even if they are merely just esotericists.

However, beyond that, I totally agree with you. This internet "Comintern" has no political or societal importance at all, nor is their new "Stalinist-Hoxhaist" theory likely to ever gain the support of any real Communist Party, regardless of how many E-books these people write about it.

Unless this organization, or its new brand of Hoxhaism, do anything meaningful for the working class, or for that matter, show any proof that they exist outside of a small and poorly-made internet site, then Stalinism-Hoxhaism will not be talked about, and this Comintern (S-H) will brook no more effort writing about on my part.

Thank you for your advice.

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